Curse

Gregos Nielsen · Apr 10, 2006, 09:06 AM // 09:06

I was looking at a fragility spiker build just now, and it got me thinking that most builds rely on fragility to stay on the enemy in order to do some major spiking. But isn't it quite easy for a foe or its allies to remove fragility? Please lend your insights.

Oh, and also, I just made a Me/N and I'm looking for a good PvE build using some Domination Magic (at least 9 +1 attribute points in it). So if you could help me with that, I would really appreciate it. I'll look in other threads, too.

Thanks.

d3kst3r · Apr 10, 2006, 11:42 AM // 11:42

If the enemy doesn't have Mend Ailment then it does moderately alright damage. However there are many ways to do DOT dmg that are more quick and efficient than Frag spiking. With Mend Ailment however it renders the entire build useless. I'm assuming you mean to use Fragility + Phantom Pain + Virulence.

Francis Demeules · Apr 10, 2006, 12:33 PM // 12:33

I did a Fragiler long time ago. Since the nerf, you do less dmg than before.

Anyway, I give you my build I did before.

Fragility
Phantom Pain
Shatter Delusion
Virulence
Conjure Phantasm
(Energy Management)
Ether Feast
Rez Signet

Like D3k said, Mend Ailment and you're out. But I consider its for PvE so its not really a problem.

Ole Man Bourbon · Apr 10, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43

There are definitely better damage builds than frag spikers.

Gregos Nielsen · Apr 10, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

Ah, ok, thanks guys.

Francis, if it's not any trouble, could you give me the attributes for that? Thanks.

d3kst3r, what does DOT mean?

Also, does anyone have any other Me/N builds with Domination Magic in it (at least 9 +1)? I found two in the Mesmer Basics thread, but I'm not sure if they were any good.

-Six- · Apr 10, 2006, 07:16 PM // 19:16

DOT = damage over time

Francis Demeules · Apr 10, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Gregos Nielsen

Ah, ok, thanks guys.

Francis, if it's not any trouble, could you give me the attributes for that? Thanks.

If I remember correctly, it was.......

Fast Casting :8
Illusion :16
Domination :5
Inspiration :8
Death Magic :8

I still prefer another build than Frag Spiker (Full Dom or Full Illusion). If I want to do condition, I prefer to bring Fevered Dreams and let the warriors doing the job (And ranger too). Anyway, Frag doesn't going well in PvP. But it works well against the doppleganger (Must pay a run to droks and cap virulence at frozen forest)

thor hammerbane · Apr 10, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Frag Spikers died when fragility got nerfed. It was always a cheap build, a sort of iway for mesmers IMO. I never ran it, and i cursed at the fiends who did. Don't stoop to that level

Hella Good · Apr 10, 2006, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Frag -> Sucks. Closest to spike Mes will ever get: Phatntom Pain/Shatter Del.

Senator Tom · Apr 10, 2006, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by d3kst3r

If the enemy doesn't have Mend Ailment then it does moderately alright damage. However there are many ways to do DOT dmg that are more quick and efficient than Frag spiking. With Mend Ailment however it renders the entire build useless. I'm assuming you mean to use Fragility + Phantom Pain + Virulence.

mend ailment would get rid of the condition, triggering fragility.

Ole Man Bourbon · Apr 11, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56

The problem is people removing Fragility. It just doesn't do enough damage either way, however.

d3kst3r · Apr 11, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator Tom

mend ailment would get rid of the condition, triggering fragility.

Fragility does about 15 dmg per condition. Mend Ailment heals for 60 hp per condition still remaining. And we haven't factored in any Divine Favor either so I'd say the frag dmg is negligible.

Ninetail Trickster · Apr 11, 2006, 01:32 AM // 01:32

You'd have to rely on someone else to inflict conditions, but fragility + crystal wave? Doubles the initial output... -shrug-